Showing posts with label translation agencies. Show all posts
Showing posts with label translation agencies. Show all posts
Wednesday
Sometimes They Come Back: Is Eurostreet Seeking Translators or Vu Comprà?
The Eurostreet
Società Cooperativa (Via Losana, 13, 13900 – Biella, Italy) is on a new hunting
expedition, this time looking for native English speakers it can underpay,
undercut, and abuse economically.
Their most recent
offer, sent in a mass email blast in February 2013 to Italian>English translators culled from a data dump of the Langit City site, is
even more reprehensible than usual.
Because “alle volte ci
capita di dover rinunciare a lavori importanti perchè non abbiamo abbastanza
traduttori di madrelingua Inglese” (“at times, we have to let important
projects go because we have too few native-English-speaking translators”), Eurostreet has made a gigantic sacrifice in
order to offer ... wait for it ... 11 lousy Euros per cartella.
But there’s
more. On Planet Eurostreet, a cartella is 1500 keystrokes MINUS THE SPACES. And
the offer is BEFORE taxes (which, for Italian freelancers, are now up to around
35%). Oh, and yes, you’ll be required to take a free translation test first.
Il Segno di Caino
simply cannot understand why Eurostreet is having trouble finding native-English-speaking
translators, can you?
Not only have
things not changed since Il Segno di Caino wrote about Eurostreet three years ago, they’ve evidently gotten much worse. Eurostreet’s prices have dropped more than a
third from the price
list they posted in 2010.
How could Eurostreet possibly still be in business? Well, you could write and ask Claudio Ranghino, who is supposedly
Eurostreet’s “legal representative” (commerciale4@eurostreet.it).
When Mr. Ranghino wrote to threaten a lawsuit against the individual who
brought Eurostreet’s latest outrageous offer to Il Segno’s attention, however,
he promised to sue for “diffamazone”
instead of “diffamazione.” So draw
your own McConclusions about where he got his McLaw degree.
(Actually, an internet search suggests the probability that Mr. Ranghino isn’t a lawyer
at all. In that case, he might like to know that impersonating a lawyer is illegal, whereas
calling an offerta al ribasso di merda an
offerta al ribasso di merda is not.
Meanwhile, if you read Italian and you’re interested in Eurostreet’s extremely
inflated opinion of itself, you can find it here in this
message offering the agency’s services as language experts to poor, defenseless
Italian school children.)
In any case, here’s the answer to the above rhetorical question. Eurostreet keeps its doors open because:
·
a) exactly like other single-celled organisms at
the bottom of the food chain, Eurostreet is a perfect fit for customers who don’t
mind sifting through mud; and
·
b) self-harming idiots continue to accept Eurostreet's translation rates, though they'd be a tough sell even in a third-world country. Hey, translating for Eurostreet probably beats wandering the piazzas of Italy muttering “Vu comprà?”
Eurostreet clearly has no intention of being ashamed of itself. So let’s
shame the translators who work for Eurostreet instead. There’s a word for what
they are, and that word is “scabs.”
What’s more, if you are a legitimately qualified Italian>English
translator, they and Eurostreet have their grubby hands in your pocket.
Are you angry yet?
Friday
Skystats Ltd. - Urgent, Technical EN>German-Polish-Portugese-Swedish for Less than Peanuts
Translation Times reports the following ProZ.com announcement as their "Job Offer of the Week":
We need some translation work on urgent basis & regular basis there after.
English to German-Polish-Portugese-Swedish Translation: URGENT
We have some 500 product descriptions and some site banners and ads that needs translation.
It is mostly technical and repetitive.
Our target price is $1500 to $2500 per pair.
No per word math please.
Product Description and other details: 21 days.
It is around 750 web pages. Word Count is approximately: 215,000
Unique words: 133990 (Product description) and rest repeat.
NO MACHINE TRANSLATION PLEASE.
Only Native speakers!
So, if you're from India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Japan, Korea, please do not bid. As we need native speakers and writers.
Writes Translation News: "We did the math for you, and if you were to get paid the maximum rate of $2500 for the 215,000 words (not the unique words), you would be making $0.011 per word. If you got the low end of $1500, your per-word rate would be $0.0069. Any takers?"
The outsourcer is a mysterious organism known as Skystats Limited, which may or may not be based in Australia. Skystats registered on ProZ in August 2009 but lists no contact information or website.
Please note the comments below as well, especially the one written by Anne-Sophie: "Maybe the people at Proz should put some limits to the kind of offers being published." Gee. Ya think?
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joy mo said...
I'll be more interested to know if anyone actually applies for the job. The low pricing game is partially some translators' fault. They are either incompetent or shortselling themeselves by accepting jobs like this.
MARCH 17, 2010 3:08 PM
Daniel said...
LOL - "No per word math please."
That's hilarious. Even if you get the $2500 and only count the unique words, it still comes out to under 1.9 cents a word. And you'd have to translate 6,380 unique words every day for 3 weeks straight!
Are you sure this isn't a joke? ;)
MARCH 17, 2010 3:42 PM
Krzysiek said...
It's not a joke. I received this job. I was wondering whether I'm really bed at maths or they put something wrong. I couldn't believe it!
MARCH 17, 2010 4:23 PM
Anne-Sophie said...
Maybe the people at Proz should put some limits to the kind of offers being published. If it were for a good cause (like an NGO or something like that), but it's not!
MARCH 17, 2010 6:00 PM
We need some translation work on urgent basis & regular basis there after.
English to German-Polish-Portugese-Swedish Translation: URGENT
We have some 500 product descriptions and some site banners and ads that needs translation.
It is mostly technical and repetitive.
Our target price is $1500 to $2500 per pair.
No per word math please.
Product Description and other details: 21 days.
It is around 750 web pages. Word Count is approximately: 215,000
Unique words: 133990 (Product description) and rest repeat.
NO MACHINE TRANSLATION PLEASE.
Only Native speakers!
So, if you're from India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Japan, Korea, please do not bid. As we need native speakers and writers.
Writes Translation News: "We did the math for you, and if you were to get paid the maximum rate of $2500 for the 215,000 words (not the unique words), you would be making $0.011 per word. If you got the low end of $1500, your per-word rate would be $0.0069. Any takers?"
The outsourcer is a mysterious organism known as Skystats Limited, which may or may not be based in Australia. Skystats registered on ProZ in August 2009 but lists no contact information or website.
Please note the comments below as well, especially the one written by Anne-Sophie: "Maybe the people at Proz should put some limits to the kind of offers being published." Gee. Ya think?
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joy mo said...
I'll be more interested to know if anyone actually applies for the job. The low pricing game is partially some translators' fault. They are either incompetent or shortselling themeselves by accepting jobs like this.
MARCH 17, 2010 3:08 PM
Daniel said...
LOL - "No per word math please."
That's hilarious. Even if you get the $2500 and only count the unique words, it still comes out to under 1.9 cents a word. And you'd have to translate 6,380 unique words every day for 3 weeks straight!
Are you sure this isn't a joke? ;)
MARCH 17, 2010 3:42 PM
Krzysiek said...
It's not a joke. I received this job. I was wondering whether I'm really bed at maths or they put something wrong. I couldn't believe it!
MARCH 17, 2010 4:23 PM
Anne-Sophie said...
Maybe the people at Proz should put some limits to the kind of offers being published. If it were for a good cause (like an NGO or something like that), but it's not!
MARCH 17, 2010 6:00 PM
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Tuesday
The British Centre - Jesi (AN), Le Marche
The Company
The British Centre of Jesi says it has been in business since 1977 -- though it still hasn't translated its own website into English.
They offer "fast, efficient service for documents of every kind (technical, scientific, legal, and business-related) in any foreign language," and, of course, they underscore their "collaboration" with native speakers.
The History
On January 8, 2008, the British Centre of Jesi posted a job to the Proz job board:
Though the job may well have been one printed page, the word count indicated in the posting was 550 words -- or approximately 2.5 "cartelle" of 1500 keystrokes each.
Payment was "15 usd" and the British Centre further promised:
Based on that, a job of 550 words should come in at a minimum of E. 22 or about $31.90 at today's exchange rate. There's no explanation for why this particular job -- marked URGENT! -- was priced so low.
I contacted the company about this job offer and their rates and received the following response:
The British Centre of Jesi says it has been in business since 1977 -- though it still hasn't translated its own website into English.
They offer "fast, efficient service for documents of every kind (technical, scientific, legal, and business-related) in any foreign language," and, of course, they underscore their "collaboration" with native speakers.
The History
On January 8, 2008, the British Centre of Jesi posted a job to the Proz job board:
URGENT. ITALIAN INTO ENGLISH 1 PAGE
Though the job may well have been one printed page, the word count indicated in the posting was 550 words -- or approximately 2.5 "cartelle" of 1500 keystrokes each.
Payment was "15 usd" and the British Centre further promised:
"you will be offered other projects from our agency."The rate quoted here, then, comes to approximately $6 per cartella. Note that, as of this writing, the British Centre's company profile on Proz.com indicates a "standard rate" of "0.04 Euro per word" for Italian->English translations.
Based on that, a job of 550 words should come in at a minimum of E. 22 or about $31.90 at today's exchange rate. There's no explanation for why this particular job -- marked URGENT! -- was priced so low.
I contacted the company about this job offer and their rates and received the following response:
you email, seems that you are quite bored. please just next time if u dont like the project and what offered, ignore them....and dont stress us with your tantrums.
NetworkOmni, Westlake Village, CA
The Company
NOTE: This post is based on information received from the colleague involved.
Network Omni Multilingual Communications offers "Interpretation, Translation, Training and Consulting Services" and further promises:
Their corporate information is:
NetworkOmni Multilingual Communications
4353 Park Terrace Drive
Westlake Village, CA 91361
Toll-Free: 800-543-4244
Main: 818-706-7890
Fax: 818-735-6305
The History
NOTE: The following is taken from information reported to the Northern California Translators Association listserv by a colleague whom I know personally and consider reliable; it does not come from my direct experience.
In August 2007, the translator in question was contacted by NetworkOmni for the urgent editing of a brief German-to-Italian translation. She edited the text and returned it to the agency on the same day.
As of October 30, 2007, and despite repeated reminders and requests, they had not paid and had failed to respond to her messages.
A search of messages on the NCTA list turned up a half-dozen other complaints, dating back to May 2006, regarding slow payments on the part of NetworkOmni.
NOTE: This post is based on information received from the colleague involved.
Network Omni Multilingual Communications offers "Interpretation, Translation, Training and Consulting Services" and further promises:
Translation and Localization
Getting your printed materials over language barriers will require more than just a word-for-word translation. It will require sensitivity to the local culture and an understanding of regional subtext—tastes, preferences, influences. A baseball metaphor will mean something in the United States, but nothing in most of the rest of the world.
Localization also encompasses the technical details that separate other cultures from our own: time/date formatting, page layouts, webpage sizing. That’s why NetworkOmni pays special attention to local relevance. It’s the best way to assure a truly global influence for our translation clients.
Their corporate information is:
NetworkOmni Multilingual Communications
4353 Park Terrace Drive
Westlake Village, CA 91361
Toll-Free: 800-543-4244
Main: 818-706-7890
Fax: 818-735-6305
The History
NOTE: The following is taken from information reported to the Northern California Translators Association listserv by a colleague whom I know personally and consider reliable; it does not come from my direct experience.
In August 2007, the translator in question was contacted by NetworkOmni for the urgent editing of a brief German-to-Italian translation. She edited the text and returned it to the agency on the same day.
As of October 30, 2007, and despite repeated reminders and requests, they had not paid and had failed to respond to her messages.
A search of messages on the NCTA list turned up a half-dozen other complaints, dating back to May 2006, regarding slow payments on the part of NetworkOmni.
Wednesday
_TL: Indian Outsourcers: Off-Shoring with a Vengeance
See more on high-quality India English on the "Inglisc: Mèd Een Eetaly" site:
… maybe this explains why they only pay translators $0.01 a word.
.025 cent per source word:
Adith Multilingual (Chetan Kumar), transco@adithmultilingual.com, Bangalore, India - Posted on the "Go Translators" list: "Italian to English Translation work of approximately 1,00,000 words."
.015 cent per source word:
Shakti Enterprises (Amit Shirodkar), profiles@shaktienterprise.com, Mumbai, India - Posted on the "Go Translators" list: "We are looking out for a translator ( Italianto English ). We have around 100 + words to be translated in English. We can pay you immidiatly on recieving the translation through paypal. TOTAL: 15.00 USD."
… maybe this explains why they only pay translators $0.01 a word.
.025 cent per source word:
Adith Multilingual (Chetan Kumar), transco@adithmultilingual.com, Bangalore, India - Posted on the "Go Translators" list: "Italian to English Translation work of approximately 1,00,000 words."
.015 cent per source word:
Shakti Enterprises (Amit Shirodkar), profiles@shaktienterprise.com, Mumbai, India - Posted on the "Go Translators" list: "We are looking out for a translator ( Italianto English ). We have around 100 + words to be translated in English. We can pay you immidiatly on recieving the translation through paypal. TOTAL: 15.00 USD."
Thursday
TRP Traduzioni Srl
The Company
Camignone di Passirano (Brescia)-based TRP Traduzioni Srl introduces itself thus on its website: "Founded in 1978 as one-man business and grown-up during the years, the current structure of TRP Traduzioni srl may well boast a twenty-year experience in the translations and annexed fields world. Our customers include clients based in Italy, Germany and Benelux, as well as a consistent number of translation centres in Europe with which we collaborate translating mainly from European languages into German. A staff of mother-tongue permanent translators guarantees qualified and punctual translations."
It continues in that vein ("The application of directives provided for by the UNI EN ISO 9001:2000 VISION regulation which we are certified to, is part of the company’s professionalism and reliability").
Evidently, their staff of "mother-tongue permanent translators" wasn't employed to translate their website into English.
The History
On 21 February 2007, a translator who had been employed by TRP Traduzioni wrote: "I advise caution in dealing with this agency: late payments, repeated requests ignored, etc. In the end, they did finally pay me."
Camignone di Passirano (Brescia)-based TRP Traduzioni Srl introduces itself thus on its website: "Founded in 1978 as one-man business and grown-up during the years, the current structure of TRP Traduzioni srl may well boast a twenty-year experience in the translations and annexed fields world. Our customers include clients based in Italy, Germany and Benelux, as well as a consistent number of translation centres in Europe with which we collaborate translating mainly from European languages into German. A staff of mother-tongue permanent translators guarantees qualified and punctual translations."
It continues in that vein ("The application of directives provided for by the UNI EN ISO 9001:2000 VISION regulation which we are certified to, is part of the company’s professionalism and reliability").
Evidently, their staff of "mother-tongue permanent translators" wasn't employed to translate their website into English.
The History
On 21 February 2007, a translator who had been employed by TRP Traduzioni wrote: "I advise caution in dealing with this agency: late payments, repeated requests ignored, etc. In the end, they did finally pay me."
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